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Graham
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« on: December 06, 2006, 11:59:42 AM »

I've recently found Flashpack from Handsmart useful. It's a method of taking a flash movie or application and converting it into a self-contained executable Pocket PC application. Where necessary it will also create a .CAB installer that makes installation of the application on the target handheld (s) a cinch using device management systems like RedHalo or ActiveSync.

It reminds me of making projectors for PC's and Mac's back in the Shockwave days.

More info: http://www.handsmart.com/index.asp
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 03:13:00 PM »

There are quite a few solutions for converting Flash content to the PPC platform. I'd say the one with the most features (including its own scripting extension to AS) is Zinc from Multidmedia. We use that quite a lot for our projects.

A word of caution: FlashPack offers the option to include the Flash Player CAB in your installer application, so you can install Flash on-the-fly, in case it's not on the target device already. It's got to be said that that isn't actually legal unless you pay Adobe a lot of money for the licence. In Handsmart's (very) small print it says that it's your responsibility to obtain a licence. They just give you the option to include it...  Wink

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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2007, 09:21:43 AM »

I have been creating flash apps for some time now and have only recently started experimenting with Macromedia Flash and PPC.  I first found it very tricky to get flash apps to run on the device but after a small biit of research i discovered there is a easy and simple method for getting ur apps onto ur PPC. 
I recommend downloading Macromedia Flash Suite, there are many free trails and demos available form the adobe @ http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/.
When you are publishing your content for your PPC device remember to set your publishing setting to / Flash version to flash 2.1 or flash 7.  Then its just a case of getting your content to your device.

Device prerequisites:

Flash Player 7 for PPC - http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/devices/pocket_pc/installers/fp7_ppc_en.cab
Flash Lite 2.1 ++ - http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/
IE or Opera Browser
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 03:57:45 PM »

Another issue with Flash content on mobile device is how exactly to distribute
1) Flash Lite 2.1 and Flash Player 7 often fall out if installed on the same device which means web based flash content published as later flash player versions do not work i.e. Flash Lite takes over and says it cannot display
2) If you publish as flash player 7 for PPC you have to include the html to launch as swf will not launch directly without developer editions i.e. Flash Lite - this caused a problems for teaching staff having to upload and deploy multiple linked files.
What we really need is flash player to enable the running of swf's directly on a mobile device, as well as embedded in html pages.

In the mean time - any apps out there to launch swf files directly?
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 04:00:02 PM »

Flash Lite 3:
Does anyone have the Flash Lite 3 CAB yet? It was promised from Adobe by end of November (following delays anyway!) and here we are in December - we can create Flash Lite - but can’t test it on our devices!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 08:42:11 PM »

Michael,

If I understand you correctly, your question about applications to launch Flash directly goes back to the beginning of this thread. There are several 3rd party 'wrapper' applications that let you embed your Flash 7 for PPC file in a .NET (C#) application including installer. That means you just have to tap on the application icon in 'Programs' (or wherever) and it will play that SWF full-screen on your device. You don't need to embed it in HTML and it won't interfere with Flash Lite if installed on the device.

A probably incomplete list of these apps:
- MDM Zinc
- Handsmart Flashpack
- Flash Ant
- Janus

They're all commercial programs (and at times a bit pricey for what they do), but it's great to have your Flash app running seamlessly on the device. Some of them also provide additional scripting to AS to do device-specific tasks.

As for Flash Lite 3, I didn't actually sign up for the developer release back in August, because I don't have a Nokia N95 to test on. I'm sure it runs on other S60 Edition 3 FP3 phones, but they said at the time that the N95 was the only guaranteed device. Rubbish. So I'm holding out for the first 'proper' developer version.

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 11:09:17 AM »

Some cool - packers in that list wolf - have you tried any open ant - seems like a cheap alternative - but i think the zinc app is very easy for any non techs snatch @ $89

Zinc™ v2.5
windows:   http://www.multidmedia.com/downloads/trial/Zinc_v2.5_Trial_Setup_2.5.0.34.exe (25mb)

ZINC™ V2 Pocket PC Edition Trial Download
ppc:      http://www.multidmedia.com/downloads/trial/Zinc_v2_PPC_trial_setup.exe (4.7mb)

handsmart FlashPack Standard 2.0.2.0 SE (23Mb)
http://www.handsmart.com/downloads/FlashPack/Standard/2.0.2.0/FlashPack2SE.exe

open ant
http://osflash.org/tutorials - (this will blow your mind)
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 06:59:31 PM »

open ant
http://osflash.org/tutorials - (this will blow your mind)


Not sure what you're pointing at here. OSFlash has some great projects running, but what is 'open ant'?

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 12:29:06 PM »

Try http://osflash.org/ant
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 02:14:41 PM »

Many thanks for these everyone
A good extensive list for me to look through.

Of course if Adobe could simply release the standalone player for Flash Lite in the same way as the Flash Player then this would be really simple!
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2007, 11:06:28 PM »



Right, now I get it - slight confusion here. The product I meant was FlashAssist from a software house called AntMobile - not "Flash Ant", as I wrongly called it. "Ant" is of course a well known Java build/compile scripting language, but nothing to do with Flash wrappers for mobile devices at all. OSFlash have a few projects which extend the 'ant' language to compile SWFs, but that's something entirely different.

Phew - I hope that clears things up. My mistake for posting a wrong product name and sending you on a wild goose chase.

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 10:25:14 AM »

Michael, since you asked for the Flash Lite 3 developer release, you can get it from Adobe Labs. And it looks like it (kind of) works on many Nokia S60 ED3 FP1 devices. Joy.

Wolf.
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2007, 01:03:25 PM »

Hi Wolf
Many thanks for this. I am really after this for Windows Mobile but I can make a good start with the N95.
Thanks again
Mike
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2007, 06:12:16 PM »

There probably won't be a FlashLite 3 release for Windows Mobile at all. Says Bill Perry from Adobe. Here we go again...

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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2007, 06:48:07 PM »

Aaaarrrggg!!! Well...why would you..I mean, its only the fastest growing operating system of all time (if you belive what you read)!!!
If there is not a release it will be a huge blow - the idea of flv playback on a mobile is wonderful and would answer all the compatability problems faced with video playback on mobile devices, especially considering cross browser apps.
What is wrong with these people!!!

Many thanks Wolf
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