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davew
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« on: March 19, 2008, 11:38:19 AM »

For those of you that missed my Soapbox piece on Mobile Learning in the Guardian Link Magazine this week ( 18th March)....

Here is the Hyperlink. http://education.guardian.co.uk/link/story/0,,2266335,00.html

Let me know what you think?

Also on the opposite page was an article by George Cole on the ASUS MiniBook... interesting insight from a few perspectives....

One being that the learners were not, in the main, expecting to take the devices home.

Secondly that this was the first real trial of the devices and they have been out since October 2007.

Lastly was my favourite quote, which I think sums up the potential use of the device.

"Glen Larkin, Westland's ICT technical support manager, says "the teachers were a bit apprehensive at first, because they thought they were getting toy computers, but they now appreciate the benefits. The English teachers, for example, used to come down to the ICT suite to do word-processing, but now they do it in their own classrooms."

Maybe an old Brother electric typewriter should be classed as a mobile device these days!!!!!  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 02:11:38 PM »

Both articles interesting.

Getting it into the mind of younger users (and FE and HE's future 'customers') that they dont have to use microsoft products or operating systems all the time could have far reaching consequences. If only we could get more corporates and management in some areas of HE :-) to open their mind to such alternatives.

I like my eeePC but wish there was still a decent palm sized device available that I could carry in my pocket.... (that should open the door to a deluge of "why dont you uses a....." )


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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 09:59:42 PM »

Dave

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Lastly was my favourite quote, which I think sums up the potential use of the device.

"Glen Larkin, Westland's ICT technical support manager, says "the teachers were a bit apprehensive at first, because they thought they were getting toy computers, but they now appreciate the benefits. The English teachers, for example, used to come down to the ICT suite to do word-processing, but now they do it in their own classrooms."

Maybe an old Brother electric typewriter should be classed as a mobile device these days!


Which is precisely the point I was coming to from a different angle in one of the other forums  Are laptops handheld?[http://www.handheldlearning.co.uk/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,58/topic,1262.msg3512#new

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Anything that you use two hands to type on is not a handheld device (unless you have three hands, one to hold it with and two to type.)


It's not the device, it's how you use it! And this time I'm not making a handist comment about the number of hands you have, I'm insisting it's the pedagogy that you use with your day to day learning and teaching. It isn't a matter of bolting on the device to present practice, it's about examining our present practice and reinventing it to benefit the learner, in doing so utilising the handheld device.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2008, 07:39:41 PM »

Let me know what you think?

Also on the opposite page was an article by George Cole on the ASUS MiniBook... interesting insight from a few perspectives....

One being that the learners were not, in the main, expecting to take the devices home.

Secondly that this was the first real trial of the devices and they have been out since October 2007.

Good article Dave!

On the George Cole piece; I'm sure that there haven't been many trials using the miniBook / EEE PC given that they were only launched at the Handheld Learning Conference in October. They did start shipping soon after in small quantities in November and in larger quantities from December onwards, mostly without manufacturing defects and on time  Wink Since then nearly 30,000 units have entered the UK education market and many more I'm sure in the casual/business user market given that Asus claim to be selling a unit every 6 seconds.

Handheld or not it's interesting that the EEE PC has virtually outsold every brand of PDA device combined in the UK schools sector within a few months of release and show's no sign of slowing down. One has to ask the question why and what does this mean?

I'm looking forward to seeing the results of full trials using these devices when they've been out a while and kids realise that they really can take them home, these can then be compared against the trials being conducted in Scotland with game based learning and then together with the PDA/Smartphone/UMPC initiatives we should get an interesting picture to discuss by the next Handheld conference.

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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 01:09:15 PM »

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Handheld or not it's interesting that the EEE PC has virtually outsold every brand of PDA device combined in the UK schools sector within a few months of release and show's no sign of slowing down. One has to ask the question why and what does this mean?
Answer (I think): The purchases of such equipment see a simple and cheap solution to 1:1 access and dont really consider what digital mobility really means for teaching and learning.
Dave - you and I discussed this at the education show where the Elonex One was launched - how do these such devices support the connecting of learners anytime, anywhere, any context. Furthermore, how does a learner 'create' using such devices, other than a word processed document or simple drawing....ok lets go crazy - we could extend to a mind map!
I too like the quote:
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"Glen Larkin, Westland's ICT technical support manager, says "the teachers were a bit apprehensive at first, because they thought they were getting toy computers, but they now appreciate the benefits. The English teachers, for example, used to come down to the ICT suite to do word-processing, but now they do it in their own classrooms."
Letting students take these home does much of the same, and actually, there are perhaps more powerful technologies in the students home to support such activity, not least their TV's, games consoles, mobile phones, an old 486 (ok going over the top now)!!!

So this does bring us back to the discussion of what mobile learning is. Perhaps the best quote I have read:
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"the processes of coming to know through conversations across multiple contexts amongst people and personal interactive technologies" (Sharples et al. 2007)
Drawing on this as a theory of mobile learning, even with an reference to personal technologies, I would strongly question what these devices truely offer teaching and learning.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 07:03:06 PM »

Hi Michael

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Handheld or not it's interesting that the EEE PC has virtually outsold every brand of PDA device combined in the UK schools sector within a few months of release and show's no sign of slowing down. One has to ask the question why and what does this mean?
Answer (I think): The purchases of such equipment see a simple and cheap solution to 1:1 access and dont really consider what digital mobility really means for teaching and learning.
Dave - you and I discussed this at the education show where the Elonex One was launched - how do these such devices support the connecting of learners anytime, anywhere, any context. Furthermore, how does a learner 'create' using such devices, other than a word processed document or simple drawing....ok lets go crazy - we could extend to a mind map!

Is this turning into a this device vs that device competition?

I recall that the original stated benefit of the PDA was that it too would achieve a simple and cheap solution to 1:1 access. But with bloated operated systems and shrinking markets they ended up costing more than £400.

I would imagine that in the case of these category busting laptops with their Linux operating system and the support of a bouyant Open Source community, learners will not be short of some excellent software for the purposes of creating and evidencing learning. Much of this software is also free as are the development tools but for those wanting to stick with Flash there is a good player and browser support for Linux also.

So this does bring us back to the discussion of what mobile learning is. Perhaps the best quote I have read:
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"the processes of coming to know through conversations across multiple contexts amongst people and personal interactive technologies" (Sharples et al. 2007)
Drawing on this as a theory of mobile learning, even with an reference to personal technologies, I would strongly question what these devices truely offer teaching and learning.

I'd say that devices don't offer anything to teaching or learning, 25 years of investment in ICT has proven that. It's the willingness to accept change and embrace without fear that will affect teaching.

In the case of learning, well, I'd say that the kids are already discovering it for themselves.

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 06:39:04 PM »

Hmmm....... The point of including the Quote about the EEEPC.... was not to pass comment on the actual device... it is a really nice device... BUT to reflect on what the person quoted... stated that it was being used for......

Although at an early stage in the trial... his views (as expressed) match what has been found in the States, regarding device useage, with most of the mass rollouts of Laptops. (Word Processing and Surfing the 'Net)

I hope to see more transformational examples of what these cheap devices will be used for...

On reflection.. I think that these Mini laptops appeal to what is regarded as a "Proper" computer by Network managers and Establishments who are looking for Traditional technologies...

Maybe that is why it has sold so well.... The price helps too....  Smiley

I still think that there is something special about the truly handheld computer, and what creative teachers and learners can do with it.

Now back to Ben Hur!  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2008, 09:35:42 AM »

i am with Dave re the importance of a device 'in hand' at your side for teaching and learning as opposed to 'on lap or desk' and in your face.

It is true though that how teachers implement teaching and learning will weigh more heavily than the device (whichever one ) affords. What I am not seeing is teachers in secondary education with time and space to develop teaching and learning strategies to utilise the flexibility of the PDA. I also see Graham's point about willingness however, when teachers can see what's on pupil's devices eg I gather data projection displays from mobiles and PDA wi-fi control of the classrrom data projector are both feasible or through software like  Synchroneyes I think attitudes will change
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