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« on: January 09, 2007, 07:25:10 PM »

Today at MacWorld Apple announced the iPhone.

A combined iPod, Phone and Internet device.

Currently it is looking like it isn't available in the UK.

Apple
http://www.apple.com/iphone/

BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6246063.stm
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 07:30:04 PM »

Was just going to post that too.  Smiley

They will start shipping in June in US, Europe in the fourth quarter.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 07:45:45 PM »

Just looking over the internet stuff



You can use push-IMAP e-mail with it aka a Blackberry functionality.

One thing it can do is full size web pages.



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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 01:36:12 PM »

I think one important but geeky feature Wink is that OS X that will be on there. It means lots of opportunities for 3rd party apps, which is good for elearning. Also, if they claim to be trying for seamless desktop intergration, which offers the chance to have something far more easier to use, for example most high end phones offer imap email connection but it's just a pain to set-up.

Wifi and bluetooth will help avoid those nasty download costs from mobile operators.

Lets hope its as good as they say it is on the tin!

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2007, 12:13:45 PM »

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It means lots of opportunities for 3rd party apps, which is good for elearning.

Sadly, that doesn't appear to be the case (at least not yet). Here are a couple of snippets from developer message boards etc:

> I just got back from Macworld Expo where I had a chance to speak
> briefly to one of the iPhone "experts" on the show floor. I assume
> this means that he is a member of the iPhone product team. He told me
> that no decision has yet been made on whether or not to include Java
> on the phone and, if so, to use J2SE or J2ME. He also said that the
> phone does use Cocoa but that it is "not an open system".
>
> I asked specifically if individual developers could write applications
> for the iPhone and the answer was not yet, but that Apple would listen
> to input from developers when deciding how or if third-party
> applications could run on the phone. He agreed with me that filing a
> Radar request would be the best way to for developers to let Apple
> know about their interest in writing third party apps for the iPhone.
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> He also confirmed that although the home screen of the iPhone looks
> like Dashboard and the applications are called Widgets, it does not
> use the same technology and standard Widgets will not run.

Also:

   * No 3G. As someone put it: "We know you know, but still, it hurts man"
   * No over the air iTunes Store downloads or WiFi syncing to your host machine.
   * No expandable memory.
   * No removable battery.
   * No Exchange or Office support.
   * Not much news on the Safari implementation, Flash support etc

Considering that the device will not be available in Europe before the autumn, I also think that a 2MP camera will look decidedly low-key for potential buyers by then. There are several 3.2MP phones out now and even a 5MP.

Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful device and the interface looks fantastic. It misses a few tricks though, and like so many Apple concepts, it all looks rather 'closed' and proprietary.

W
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2007, 05:25:01 PM »

May not be called the iPhone for very long:
http://tinyurl.com/ymkb8m
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2007, 10:14:58 PM »

a developer seems to suggest that Apple has great interest in third-party apps for the iPhone.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2007, 12:00:32 AM »

I think that the key point, from a developer perspective, is that the iPhone is Mac OS X based. This should mean that developers will be able to benefit from all the OS X developer support programmes and tools, unlike the situation with the iPod where developer support is non-existent.

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2007, 01:11:36 AM »

ifelix, did you mean the comment posted by someone who attended a developers briefing? He's not giving much away, but it does sound encouraging.

I think it all depends on what type of OS X it really is. The analogy of Windows and Windows Mobile has been mentioned, and until we hear a bit more about the bare bones of the OS, it's difficult to say how easy it will be to develop for.

One thing that will be interesting is how to utilize the multi-touch screen. From a Flash developer point, in ActionScript there isn't such a thing (yet) as detecting two or more 'input device clicks' at the same time, ie screen touches with more than one finger...
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 07:35:15 AM »

Well Steve Jobs has confirmed (to Newsweek) that the iPhone is a closed platform.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16566968/site/newsweek/page/2/

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http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/11/jobs-confirms-iphone-is-a-closed-platform/

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"You don't want your phone to be an open platform.... You need it to work when you need it to work. Cingular doesn't want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up."


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"These are devices that need to work, and you can't do that if you load any software on them," he said. "That doesn't mean there's not going to be software to buy that you can load on them coming from us. It doesn't mean we have to write it all, but it means it has to be more of a controlled environment."


Pity.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2007, 07:45:18 PM »

"Cingular doesn't want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up."

That's got to be the most ludicrous quote I've ever heard. It's like "an internet virus ate my grandmother".

Pity indeed.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2007, 09:50:51 PM »

Pity?

Insanely Stupid!

This would make iPhone one of the only smart phones that is a closed platform.

Symbian, the leading smart phone operating system, has always fostered a developer community as has Microsoft with Windows Mobile and Palm with the OS in their best-selling Treo phone. Shame on Apple if they can't see the advantage of fostering a developer community around mobility.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 12:33:38 PM »

Oh, and as for innovation in design there's obviously this:



The LG KE850 mobile phone (PRADA branded). Out in March, with a Flash-based UI and full touchscreen.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/15/the-lg-ke850-touchable-chocolate/
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2007, 01:40:48 PM »

The LG will be released in the UK at the end of Feb, the iPhone won't be in the UK until Q4 2007!

In other news...

MacScoop are reporting that Apple will be releasing a new video iPod (before the new iPhone is released) which will use the same interface as the iPhone and use the slimmed down version of OS X.

They also say that there will be a Mac Tablet in 2008.

I am not one to post mindless gossip and rumours (hence adding it to this thread over starting a new topic) but it would be nice if it was true.

Apple did put the following in a patent application though...

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2007, 07:35:12 PM »

I thought I'll share this iPhone vs. N800 comparison with you: http://www.starryhope.com/tech/apple/2007/10-ways-the-nokia-n800-is-better-than-apples-iphone/
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